Q&A - Neiman Marcus Curator Julie Kronick Remains Focused on Company Goals

In 1951, Alexander Calder (1898-1976) wassources, I visit artist and gallery Web sites. All of
bursting onto the international art scene. Twothis legwork is done before I make my first trip
years earlier, the Philadelphia native constructedto the area.
his largest mobile, "International Mobile," for theQ: So when do the artists start fitting into your
Philadelphia Museum of Art's Third Internationalstore layout?
Exhibition of Sculpture. His works were featured inA: When I have artists in mind, I look at the
the best galleries and a retrospective wasscope of their work. I take that information and
mounted at the Museum of Modern Art in Newwork hours upon hours on my floor plans, looking
York. Shows in Paris followed.at wall elevations and different options. It is similar
But before he began focusing on large-scaleto fitting puzzle pieces together. Adjacencies are
commissioned works -- such as ".125" at John F.extremely important. For example, if the
Kennedy Airport in New York and "El Sol Rojo" inpresence of designer shops create several walls
Mexico City -- Calder met Stanley Marcuswhich are seen in the same view, it is crucial that
(1905-2002). At the time, Marcus had justthe art pieces are complimentary. The works of
assumed the CEO post at Neiman Marcus, theart in any given store need to flow. Once I'm
department store founded by his father and aunt.comfortable with the fit, I then approach the
Impressed with the artist's work, Marcusartist and commission him or her to produce a
purchased a Calder mobile in 1951. "Today, it's thepiece of a specific size. Approximately 85 percent
most prized piece in the Neiman Marcusof all the artwork purchased is commissioned.
Collection," says Julie Kronick, corporate artQ: Most artists must be happy to work with you
curator at the Dallas-based luxury retailer. "We liketo achieve your goals.
to say that's when the collection officially started."A: They are usually quite pleased. Neiman Marcus
"Stanley Marcus had impeccable taste," adds Gregis honored to have their work included in the
Rohan, president of Dallas-based Heritage Auctioncollection and they, likewise, feel fortunate to
Galleries, "and that extended to his art collection."have their work featured.
The Neiman Marcus Collection today includes moreQ: What about artists who don't want to
than 2,500 pieces spanning all mediums, includingcooperate?
paintings, drawings, sculptures, mobiles and evenA: There have been times, yes. Several artists
ancient artifacts and textiles from across thehave declined, most likely, because they would
world. Works range from Mexican artist Rufinorather have their work purchased by a museum
Tamayo (1899-1991) to French artist and sculptoror private collector rather than a retailer. We
Jean Dubuffet (1901-1985). Unlike most corporaterespect their wishes and move onward. There are
collections, pieces from the Neiman Marcusso many artists doing interesting, sophisticated
Collection are spread across the country,work in abstraction who are pleased to be a part
displayed at the company's 41 full-line Neimanof who we are and what we do. As for the
Marcus stores. "Most of the pieces are notothers, if it's not a right fit, it would not be a
housed in a warehouse or in the executivesuccessful project.
offices," Kronick says. "The majority of the workQ: You must receive unsolicited portfolios from
is in our stores, on view for customers andartists all the time.
associates to enjoy."A: I get hundreds of portfolios. If an artist sends
Q: You first came to Neiman Marcus as a privatea package or directs us to his or her Web site
consultant in 1990, correct?and it is not what we are interested in, they are
A: I was initially hired on contract to work forat least owed a response. I typically explain that
four months. I had worked at the Whitneywe work with regional artists, local to where we
Museum of American Art in New York, and thenare opening a new store. We also focus primarily
at one of Leo Castelli's galleries. I came toon non-representational work. If someone insists
Neiman's as a consultant to work on new storeon presenting images of their Western art pieces
openings. Mr. Marcus had already left the companyor traditional botanicals, we politely reply that the
by then.work is not in our scope or focus.
Q: How has the acquisitions process changed sinceQ: So you must get lots of artwork featuring
Stanley Marcus left?pricey bags and shoes?
A: There are two big changes. First, while Mr.A: Occasionally we do. Generally, we don't mix
Marcus was at the helm, he made most of thefashion with art. The more recent acquisitions
decisions regarding art acquisitions. Mr. Marcus hadcertainly reflect my taste. If someone else came
an appreciation for all types of fine art, fromon board as curator, his or her stamp would be
textiles to sculptures to mixed media. He was atleft on this collection, too. But I am not interested
liberty to buy what moved him, and he madein fashion as the subject matter for the art. It is
some significant purchases. I could never acquire aimportant that the works in our collection stand
Jean Dubuffet today or an Alexander Calder.on their own integrity. They should have the
When I first came to Neiman's, I thought it wouldsame strong presence and validity, whether they
be more wise to acquire three to four importantare installed in a retail environment or any other
pieces a year and really highlight them within theenvironment.
company and for our customers. But I soonQ: Are any other themes off limits when you look
recognized that we have so many spaces and sofor art?
many stores that it's better to buy more workA: We focus on abstract, non-representational
and cover more ground. The second big change iswork. If someone brought you into our Hawaii
that Mr. Marcus bought art without particularstore, and then 15 minutes later blindfolded you
spaces in mind. That is why I found a lot ofand took you to our San Antonio store, you
artwork housed in a warehouse, awaiting thewould see a consistency. Nothing is cookie-cutter
appropriate space to be installed. On the otherin our stores, especially the art. The high level of
hand, I buy art for site-specific locations.taste and sophistication are the consistent factors.
Q: What is your annual acquisitions budget?While we want the work to be interesting and
A: I am not at liberty to tell you. The budget doesthought-provoking, we believe it can be beautiful
vary, and when we open a new store, the artand entertaining as well.
budget generally is based on the square footageQ: But that doesn't mean you don't push artists.
of the store.There have been times you've asked artists to
Q: What is the most you've spent on one piecedo things they don't normally do, right?
of art?A: I think we sometimes stretch an artist in a
A: It would probably be an outdoor piece,way that he or she may not have been
something that is much larger in scale. We do notstretched before. About eight years ago we
always have the space to accommodate theseasked artist Richard Beckman to create a large
monumental pieces, but when we do, they makesculpture for one of our focal spaces. He had
quite a statement.never worked in this large scale before. After
Q: How many pieces do you acquire each year?some hesitancy, he took on the task, conquering
A: It depends if we are opening a new store orseveral engineering challenges. The finished piece is
working on a major remodel. An average perdynamic and quite breathtaking. Sometimes, as in
store is approximately 100 to 150 works. Wethis case, we believe that if we can stretch an
may acquire several pieces by the same artist, soartist and open them up to something they
we may have 25 to 30 artists represented in ahaven't considered, the end result can be an
given store.exciting step into another phase of their work. If
Q: So explain how you go about looking for pieceswe can encourage an artist to reach beyond his
to fill a particular store.or her potential, it's a win-win.
A: Generally, about a year before a store opens, IQ: Who are some of the artists you've acquired
begin the process of networking in a particularwhose pieces have now skyrocketed in value?
region. I sometimes start with the gallery guideA: Of course the most noticed price escalations
for a given city and call on galleries from thoseare seen with our larger sculptures, such as our
listings. I also approach art dealers who live inAlexander Calder, Jean Dubuffet, Alexander
various parts of the country. The ones who ILiberman and Harry Bertoia sculptures. Some of
work with understand our parameters, as far asour limited edition prints have also increased in
taste level, style and price point. Sometimes Ivalue over the years. A lot of our artists have
contact the curator at a local museum and inquirecertainly received national and international
about some of the younger local artists who areattention.
doing exciting work. In addition to the above